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If you wish to believe the west is all innocent sweetness and light then that is your choice.
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That includes all western nations as well. I have no difficulty believing that all nation states will do whatever they can to suppress their own dissidents. Whereas spying from countries with which there are extradition agreements could be a matter for concern." "Nonetheless in the context of a comment section about a Lenovo laptop review I think it's safe to say that western born and bred nationals have little or nothing to be concerned about from Chinese "spying" on their personal IT devices. You evidently chose to dishonestly selectively quote from a particular post I made. If you have NOT being paying attention -and you clearly haven't- you will find it startling and possibly upsetting. If you've been paying attention, it only scratches the surface and misses a lot of what's going on, but what he DOES include is correct and he includes a lot. He's a solidly left-wing journo who just got too many wake-up calls to be able to maintain the approved fictions. As a quick catch-up, a whole lot all in one place, you could do a lot worse than getting "Red Zone" by Peter Hatcher. I suggest you need to stop reading PR documents and start reading news. Federally, China demanded an extradition treaty be ratified (with key normal protection excised) and the intelligence services only just managed to block it - the incompetent Julie Bishop was mad keen to sign it. The uni has a United Front department occupying a third of the main building and running "courses" which Chinese students are "encouraged" to attend. The uni bureaucrats kept the police out, and excluded (ejected from uni enrolment) the group's organiser for being provocative. Recent example, well publicised: coupla years ago, 300 turned up at my old uni to attack a small group publicly supporting Hong Kong. In Australia, that goes back to at least the 60s. The PLA's & wossname's foreign arms are in active presence and impact in most countries, operating publicly as "spontaneous" "voluntary" "citizen" swarmings. If they persist, family members start losing their jobs or being imprisoned.
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It is routine for Chinese nationals in all foreign countries who step slightly out of line to get nervous stressed phonecalls out of the blue from family members who have just been dropped back from the police station or Party office, urging them to think more "correctly".
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Came to light via a defector who could name some names - cleared up some missing person cases, brought to light a lot more that had been kept secret by families in serious fear. Then I respectfully but emphatically urge you to widen your information sources, and to dig a hell of a lot deeper than you have to date.Ĭhina has a _documented_ history of kidnapping and renditioning people out of Australia for over 20 years. Re: from countries with which there are extradition agreements I'd be interested to hear of anything to the contrary. Whereas spying from countries with which there are extradition agreements could be a matter for concern. Nonetheless in the context of a comment section about a Lenovo laptop review I think it's safe to say that western born and bred nationals have little or nothing to be concerned about from Chinese "spying" on their personal IT devices. Our media do this with with Russian interference so why would they ignore this if it was China? I would have thought that if this was the case western media would be banging on about it. The nearest I've heard is allegations that Chinese dissidents living abroad may have been approached by teams from their Chinese ministry to intimidate or harass ethnic Chinese to return to China voluntarily. Whilst the Chinese state may well be pissed off and irritated by external criticism I have never heard of any issues arising from that for western nationals. Re: why would you be concerned about spying by Lenovo?